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I'm not a violent man...

From:  p2000
Date:  11/13/05 7:32 PM

Abrasive maybe, abusive at times but not violent. However when I saw the protesters at the soldiers' funeral in northern Wisconsin with a sign that read 'Thank God for 9-11' I went into a rage. Had I been in attendance I would not have been able to hold back. Nor would I have tried. Some people need to learn that when you shit where you eat...your sign gets shoved up your ass. Ingrateful pieces of shit. They live under the umbrella of democracy, free will, the freedom to move and free speech yet forget those who paid for that privelege with their blood. Actions like this should be treated as high treason and dealt with thusly.

p2000 Give me fuel give me fire give me that which I desire...

From:  Lady Godiva
Date:  11/13/05 7:34 PM

I would of helped you.

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From:  NRA2
Date:  11/13/05 7:40 PM

p2000,

I hear you!! Protesters at a private funeral? Who the f%ck do they think they are?!

IMO, our country's freedoms are being taken advantage of, and will contribute to our eventual demise as a free country; at least as "we" know it.

Doug

From:  AnacostiaKat
Date:  11/13/05 7:40 PM

Truely unfortunate and misguided. Why am I not the shocked!

Strengh and Honor!!

From:  garhead
Date:  11/13/05 7:41 PM

Disgusting Pete. I wish I was there as well.

From:  p2000
Date:  11/13/05 7:48 PM

Well put NRA2. It just frosts me to the core. The funeral was on Veterans Day no less. And the protesters appeared to be a bunch of white people (as opposed to a group of middle-eastern people) who actually tried to articulate their reasoning for darkening a family's time of grief. Sonofabitch it pisses me off to even think about it.

p2000 Give me fuel give me fire give me that which I desire...

From:  kchank
Date:  11/13/05 7:49 PM

p2000, I am so terribly torn. I abhore the war in Iraq and fear it will become another Vietnam. But with America's youth at stake, I agree that protest does no good. Neither the left preaching Democracy nor the radical Right declaring God's wrath at the sins of our society do anyone any good. Whether you object or support, you must acknowledge we are at war. Our friends/children are at risk. Soldiers go where they must and when they are killed, they must be honored as heroes.

From:  GTU
Date:  11/13/05 7:58 PM

His name is Fred Phelps and do feel free to kick his ass and those of his "flock". Just watch out, these bitches bring their kids along for protection.

You can usually find him in Topeka, KS, near any location that is likely to have gay in attendance.

GTU Rock Chalk Jayhawks, KU

From:  NRA2
Date:  11/13/05 8:04 PM

kchank,

We are all "torn" but it has always been this way, minus the technology that shows ever pimple and fart that happens.

There are neutral places to protest. Nobody should be so inconsiderate of a families' grief.

Doug

From:  paragon
Date:  11/13/05 8:16 PM

Oh yeah...those are red people. You can take them.

From:  sm0kinmama
Date:  11/13/05 8:30 PM

I'm just sitting here shaking my head.

SmÕkinmama

From:  griz
Date:  11/13/05 9:34 PM

The concept of a polite and civil society deteriorates whenever people expect law enforcement to instruct the unenlightened.

It bears a close resemblence to the problems we see with child rearing and education.

Sammi, she's blind but not because of the cataracts .
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From:  moki
Date:  11/14/05 1:42 AM

Protesting a war, and "thanking god" for the deaths of thousands of people are two entirely different things.

What a maggot.

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From:  AmbassadorP
Date:  11/14/05 2:48 AM

Pete, for now, just ignore them; they are not only ingrateful but also stupid.

We all deeply thank the big heart of every US soldier and allied forces into this big effort against terrorism.

I truly think that thanks to the soldiers we have not been attacked directly in US soil, for last couple of years.

A true reminder for the protesters, is just from last week at the casualties in hotels at AMMAN, Jordan.

These terrorists are all from Iraqi cells that used to live and grow under that government, including the now captured Iraqi wife of a suicide bomber. Al-Rishawi's brother was once the right-hand man to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian leader of al-Qaida in Iraq.

The brother, Mubarak Atrous al-Rishawi, was killed in the former terrorist stronghold of Fallujah, Iraq.

I can not imagine how many thousands of more casualties if that cell had not been destroyed by US forces in Iraq. God bless the soldier RIP.

Maduro...,Naturally. Protected by Chupa Firewall

From:  MacLeod
Date:  11/14/05 7:19 AM

I believe in the right for peaceful assembly and all that and the right to protest, however those rights, IMHO, are reserved for public events, for instance you cannot come in to my home and protest, so i do not think you should be able to crash a private funeral and spew that garbage. I am curious to know how many people get this upset though when the same people crash the funeral of someone who has died of AIDS with their "God hates fags" signs. I don't remember seeing any I'm not a violent person but threads for those, but that's another thread for another time.

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From:  macupdale
Date:  11/14/05 7:52 AM

Happened a couple months ago 20 miles north of here in a small town. They knew this group was comming, and only because 20 state troopers and dozens of local law enforcement were present did they not get the crap beat out of them.

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From:  wansingct
Date:  11/14/05 8:06 AM

Sometimes I think we can make TOO MANY laws. Every once in a while you need to leave a little "fluff space" to allow for the people of a community to solve some of the problems they don't want there on their own.

Everybody needs a good whoopin every once in a while, looks like these folks are long overdue. Maybe they're just missing their glory days of protesting Vietnam.

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison

From:  JoanY
Date:  11/14/05 8:13 AM

You went into a rage at a sign designed for that purpose and would not have been ablle to hold back. You are a violent man.

From:  Varick
Date:  11/14/05 8:20 AM

MacLeod, the reason you didn't see that kind of thread here when it came to the death from AIDS is simple:

God DOES hate Fags.

L&L,

VARICK

All things being equal... fat people DO use more soap.

From:  JoanY
Date:  11/14/05 8:22 AM

I'm sure she has a special place for you.

From:  mr_bad_example
Date:  11/14/05 8:22 AM

Sometimes people who behave beyond the bounds of decency need to be shown the error of their ways.

Certain types of "speech" are now considered "hate speech" as certain types of "words" were once considered "fighting words."

It is entirely appropriate that people who disrupt private events for the purpose of spewing hate be met with a response that deters them for doing such in the future.

When I assault the man who invades my home (as I have done) to protect myself and my family, I am violent, but that does not make me a violent man.

Do you think your way is so right that all other beliefs are absurd??? Are you a muslim? Or maybe an evangelical Christian? Or just really, really, really, REALLY closed minded to other, more reality based, points of view. griz

From:  Fuente Fan
Date:  11/14/05 8:23 AM

To do this at someone's private funeral makes it 10X worse. These kind of people have no self respect. Like Moki said, thanking God for killing people and protesting the war??? They can't see why this makes no sense?

And by the the way, FU Joan.

 Fuente Fan

From:  mr_bad_example
Date:  11/14/05 8:23 AM

Joan, know the players before you condemn them.

Frank was being facetious.

Do you think your way is so right that all other beliefs are absurd??? Are you a muslim? Or maybe an evangelical Christian? Or just really, really, really, REALLY closed minded to other, more reality based, points of view. griz

From:  john henry
Date:  11/14/05 8:25 AM

Joan stfu you no nothing you nuwbie puke,do you even know pete ,had a cigar with him,know what he does for a living? Oh btw I would get a large supper soaker and do a drive by!

Cigars are to be smoked not worshiped.

From:  tarheel4lyf
Date:  11/14/05 8:33 AM

"Joan stfu you no nothing you nuwbie puke,do you even know pete ,had a cigar with him,know what he does for a living? Oh btw I would get a large supper soaker and do a drive by!"

"Joan stfu you KNOW nothing you NEWBIE puke. Do you even know pete? ...had a cigar with him? ...know what he does for a living? Oh, btw, I would get a large SUPER soaker and do a drive by!"

"Save your breath. You'll need it to blow up your date later."

From:  tarheel4lyf
Date:  11/14/05 8:34 AM

This spelling/grammar check brought to you by your friends at TarHeel4lyf Enterprises.

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From:  Max Power
Date:  11/14/05 8:54 AM

Joan = Troll du Jour

From:  john henry
Date:  11/14/05 8:57 AM

Thanks Jason!

Cigars are to be smoked not worshiped.

From:  Max Power
Date:  11/14/05 8:58 AM

LOL! WTF is a "supper soaker"?

From:  Stormin'
Date:  11/14/05 9:04 AM

I hate a soggy dinner...

Stormin'

From:  tarheel4lyf
Date:  11/14/05 9:04 AM

No problem.....as you can see I am a bit bored this morning.

"Save your breath. You'll need it to blow up your date later."

From:  john henry
Date:  11/14/05 9:32 AM

A squirt gun that will get 4 or 5 people wet head to toe with one shot!

Cigars are to be smoked not worshiped.

From:  Max Power
Date:  11/14/05 10:24 AM

While they are eating?

From:  Ric Web
Date:  11/14/05 10:51 AM

Seems a 'drive-by' of Hells Angels would have been appropriate.....

Joan, you need to find another place to spew your unwanted bunk.....

LOL Frank..I was going to say just what you did, but I was tardy......

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From:  esqted
Date:  11/14/05 10:55 AM

I'm sure she has a special place for you.

I am getting a vision. It is cloudy, but I can definitely make out a hulking form in front of a computer, devoid of friends, a personality, or a social life. I can see an anonymous Yahoo e-mail address and a 2-day old account here.

There it is, it is a baiter. A master baiter.

Don't feed the trolls

Ted 2
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From:  macleod
Date:  11/14/05 11:05 AM

Ah Varick I can feel the love of Jesus just oozing out of you. Nothing like a hypocrit. Love thy neighbor, unless they are GAY!. Man I must have missed the footnoted version. But away from the religion issue, it is ok to interrupt a private funeral as long as you agree with what the people interrupting the private funeral are saying?

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From:  PrizePig
Date:  11/14/05 11:13 AM

1. If they did not have a permit for their protest, they should have been arrested.

2. If they disrupted the funeral through excessive noise, physical blockade, etc., they should have been arrested for disturbing the peace.

3. Otherwise, they merely displayed a lack of class, no Christian love or respect for the feelings of the family and other mourners, and very poor manners.

4. Violence against them would be completely wrong, as even my five year old knows from the saying "sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me."

5. Anyone who resorted to violence to respond to a lawful protest with which he objected, is no better than a Nazi thug and belongs in jail himself. The remedy for "bad" speech is more "good" speech.

6. griz sounds more and more every day like a bitter anarchist.

From:  griz
Date:  11/14/05 11:16 AM

MacLeod, I do not believe the founders reserved the right of peaceful assembly to public events. The violation here is to human decency.

JoanY, ALL men are potentially violent, it is our nature. It is the holding back part that determines if we are actively violent, but in ordinary communication, the distinction is understood by those who are lucid.

Sammi, she's blind but not because of the cataracts .
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From:  moki
Date:  11/14/05 11:16 AM

I am curious to know how many people get this upset though when the same people crash the funeral of someone who has died of AIDS with their "God hates fags" signs. I don't remember seeing any I'm not a violent person but threads for those, but that's another thread for another time.

I personally would find that just as tasteless... but I don't see what that has to do with the issue p2000 raised.

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From:  PrizePig
Date:  11/14/05 11:22 AM

BTW, mcleod, Frank is an agnostic. It was a joke - lighten up.

I do not believe there is any such thing as a "gay" person. There are people who engage in homosexual acts, which God condemns.

1Corithians 6:9-10: "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God"

From:  Rooster
Date:  11/14/05 11:37 AM

Where does that leave Benny Hin?
PP, a reaction of a physical nature would have absolutely nothing to do with being a Nazi. If these people and their opinions were not expressed in such a deplorable manner timing and location wise, no one would be hunting them down for those beliefs. Close, but no cigar.

From:  PrizePig
Date:  11/14/05 11:49 AM

"in such a deplorable manner timing and location wise"

Her in America we let the people's democratically-elected officials determine that, NOT a group of self-appointed Nazi thugs. And that is EXACTLY what the Brownshirts did on their way to power - take it upon themselves to physically assault others whose speech they found offensive.

From:  john henry
Date:  11/14/05 11:54 AM

Bill wtk does Benny Hinn have to do with this,and as I said before ,drive by supper sokering!

Cigars are to be smoked not worshiped.

From:  wansingct
Date:  11/14/05 12:08 PM

So Pig, what you're saying is that maybe Hitler was just trying to protect his right to free speech??? I don't get it.

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison

From:  Jonesy
Date:  11/14/05 12:14 PM

this group came here and set up their signs at a funeral for a Special Forces guy who was KIA in Afghan, the cops gave them 2 minutes and then drove them immediately out of town for their own safety. wackos.

Somebody just back of you while you are fishing is as bad as someone looking over your shoulder while you write a letter to your girl. ~ Ernest Hemingway

From:  Max Power
Date:  11/14/05 12:24 PM

Somehow, I can't equate grieving relatives of a soldier killed in a volunteer army in any way to brown shirts or Nazis. That term is tossed around far too casually these days.

Macleod, you may be right, you may not, but you picked a strange time and place to bring it up. Sometimes it's good NOT to be the devil's advocate.

From:  griz
Date:  11/14/05 12:45 PM

Pig, if the mourners had pummeled the protestors AND law enforcement gave the enraged mourners a wink and a nod, it wouldn't happen again.

Even barnyard animals get better parenting than most kids today or else we would not be discussing this.

Sammi, she's blind but not because of the cataracts .
griz326-AT-yahoo-dot-com

From:  Hotboy
Date:  11/14/05 12:51 PM

PP, it's people like you for whom the "separation of church and state" laws were written. Slavish devotion to religious dogma is a scary thing...witness the Al Quaida terrorists, who take that kind of devotion to the next level.

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From:  Rooster
Date:  11/14/05 1:03 PM

There goes PP, rewriting history again. So, I now know Hitler et al did not target everyone of the Jewish faith, just those that stood outside the SS station picketing. Thanks.

From:  PrizePig
Date:  11/14/05 1:23 PM

Rooster, you are an idiot. I was equating the actions of a d!ckwad who would physically assault someone in opposition to their speech, to the actions of the brownshirts . . . who also physically assaulted people (of ALL faiths) in opposition to their speech.

Exactly WTF does "Jewish faith" have to do with that (BTW, another history lesson for you moron, Hitler didn't care about "faith," he only cared about ancestry - Hilter didn't spare Jewish athiests either).

Meanwhile given his limited intellect, I am not surprised to see Puff Daddy equating P2000 beating the sh!t out of some protestors, with "grieving relatives of a soldier killed in a volunteer army."

Finally, griz, if some enraged reader of your constant babbling bulls!t here beat the living sh!t out of you to within an inch of your life, and law enforcement gave the enraged reader a wink and a nod, you would stop posting your garbage here.

From:  likescarsz28
Date:  11/14/05 1:23 PM

Pete, I appreciate why you are so upset about this. It sickens me as well.

A similar situation almost occurred in central South Dakota about six months ago. I say almost because ass whoopuns were handed out in bulk. There are some advantages to living here Pete, the protesters will NOT come back.

From:  wansingct
Date:  11/14/05 1:27 PM

Is there such a thing as a "Jewish atheist"??? Anybody here have any ancestors from the country of "Jew" (that WOULD make them Jewish, right...)??

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison

From:  the volusianator
Date:  11/14/05 1:27 PM

P2000, you would've had all you could do to beat me to those sick bastards!

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From:  wansingct
Date:  11/14/05 1:30 PM

Oh, almost forgot the obligatory

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison

From:  PrizePig
Date:  11/14/05 1:31 PM

BTW, Hotboy, ignorant devotion to athiesm is an even scarier thing...witness the millions killed by Stalin, Mao, and Hitler.

That is why the founders of this great country recognized that we are endowed with rights by The Creator. Otherwise, human beings would be nothing but really smart animals and would have no more rights than a really smart animal.

From:  HappySmoker
Date:  11/14/05 1:39 PM

PrizePig strikes again. Just yesterday he was spitting out garbage, saying that people who work for Law Enforcement are scum... And today, he is defending the scum protestors...

Wansingct, "Jewish" is both a religion and nationality. Jew does not have to be religious to be a Jew. This is the only nationality in the world which is also a religion... Keep learning, young man!

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From:  john henry
Date:  11/14/05 1:44 PM

Watch it hs or PP will be calling you pole smoker again!

Cigars are to be smoked not worshiped.

From:  HappySmoker
Date:  11/14/05 1:47 PM

LOL, that's all he can do in his defense...

His statements are the biggest attacks on himself.

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From:  Rooster
Date:  11/14/05 1:56 PM

And I'm the idiot!!! That's rich. Equating an emotionally charged act of kicking someome's ass (who truly is deserving of a beat down) with genocide. A$$hat.

From:  Hotboy
Date:  11/14/05 1:59 PM

BTW PP...quoting from a set of religious fables to make your point makes me laugh...

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From:  john henry
Date:  11/14/05 2:02 PM

I saw you looking Joan nuttin To say ?

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